After high school I attended  Arizona State College in  Flagstaff for four years. Now it is called Northern Arizona  University.           Then I married Karen and we had four kids. We had a daughter, Mia 43; and three boys, Chris 42, Jim 41, and Sean 36. Our daughter married and became Mia Oliver and gave us two  grandchilfen. One of my sons, Jim, has two children. Our son Sean  has one son. Our third son is Chris. Our five grandchildren are Jake 10, Corina 13, Christian 9, Alexa 7, and Tanner 4.   I spent a lot of time with my sons doing sports including baseball and fishing. Then they grew up. I worked for a liquor distributor for 28 years. My second job was working for Gila County helping people get trained for new jobs. The program I was working in was funded by the Federal government. We lived in Flagstaff and when other counties decided to go for the funds Gila county was earning, I moved my job to the counties nearer to our home. I did work for Coconino county, Apache County, and Navajo County. After 13 years with the counties I retired. At times we have lived other places like Isleton California where as Karen grew up in the Vacaville area nearby.